Join me in my conversation with Alexander Rose about his new book, The Lion and the Fox: Two Rival Spies and the Secret Plot to Build a Confederate Navy, which tells a fascinating story of a Liverpool-based spy v. spy struggle between two Americans to build and defeat the building of a Confederate Navy which, if successful, surely could have changed the outcome of the Civil War.

About the Guest

Alexander Rose is the author of Washington’s Spies (the basis for the AMC drama series, Turn: Washington’s Spies, on which he served as a writer/producer), Empires of the Sky, Men of War, and several other nonfiction books. His latest is The Lion and the Fox, and he’s currently working on his seventh book—about a World War Two spymaster and a rogue Navy captain who together audaciously sought to capture a U-boat. He was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship in 2020 and is a Fellow of the Royal Historical Society. He writes the historical-intelligence newsletter, Spionage, at Substack.