A Conversation with Rachael Bade and Karoun Demirjian, and Congress' Botched Impeachments of Donald Trump

That Said with Michael Zeldin
Written By Michael Zeldin

Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Karoun Demirjian and Rachel Bade about their book, Unchecked, The Untold Story Behind Congress’s Botched Impeachments of Donald Trump. The book provides a fascinating, behind-the-scenes detailed analysis of how, according to their reporting, House Democrats hesitated for too long to stand up to President Trump and then pulled punches in both impeachments in favor of protecting their political interests.

About the Authors

Karoun Demirjian

Karoun Demirjian joined the New York Times as a congressional correspondent this year after nearly a decade at The Washington Post, where she began as a Moscow correspondent and covered both the Pentagon and Congress, including both Trump impeachments.

Her work on Capitol Hill has focused chiefly on national security policy and related investigations

Rachael Bade

Rachael Bade is Politico's Senior Washington Correspondent and a Co-Author of Playbook. She specializes in stories illuminating the power struggles and personal dynamics animating the Beltway, breaking news on everything from private Capitol Hill negotiations, to inter- and intra-party clashes impacting the legislative process. 

A more than 10-year veteran of the congressional press corps, Rachael covered Congress for POLITICO for six years beginning in 2015. Her work chronicled President Trump's remaking of the GOP, and she churned out stories with behind-the-scenes details about the struggle between pro-Trump lawmakers and those fearful of the new direction of the party.  Rachael is a frequent guest on the Sunday show circuit, appearing on NBC's "Meet the Press," CBS's "Face the Nation," ABC's "This Week" and Fox News' "Fox News Sunday." She spent half-decade working as a political analyst for CNN. 

Michael Zeldin

Michael Zeldin is a well-known and highly-regarded TV and radio analyst/commentator.He has covered many high-profile matters, including the Clinton impeachment proceedings, the Gore v. Bush court challenges, Special Counsel Robert Muller’s investigation of interference in the 2016 presidential election, and the Trump impeachment proceedings. In 2019, Michael was a Resident Fellow at the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School, where he taught a study group on Independent Investigations of Presidents. Previously, Michael was a federal prosecutor with the U.S. Department of Justice. He also served as Deputy Independent/ Independent Counsel, investigating allegations of tampering with presidential candidate Bill Clinton’s passport files, and as Deputy Chief Counsel to the U.S. House of Representatives, Foreign Affairs Committee, October Surprise Task Force, investigating the handling of the American hostage situation in Iran.Michael is a prolific writer and has published Op-ed pieces for CNN.com, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Hill, The Washington Times, and The Washington Post

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